JE = ~FEELINGS~
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skycouldfall 's very simple question on Tumblr: "Who do you like and don’t like in JE?" However, since I'm me, it turned into a longer ramble than I thought it would be so I'm posting this here. Also, since I'm me, all I wrote was: a) what I think of them as a ~person~ and uh, not their looks or acting or music and b) wavering somewhere between empathetic and embarrassingly sincere. I CAN'T EVEN APOLOGIZE FOR THIS, THIS IS HOW INVESTED I AM. (Other things I would apologize for. XD )
Disclaimer! This is a post about what I think and feel (as you will probably get from how many times I use the words "think" and "feel", I'm really stretching the vocab with this one). It isn't necessarily accurate representation of anyone, in fact there are cases where I'm probably wrong and there would be easy evidence to refute it. But I am only thinking and feeling with what I know. Such is life! Also, my default position towards everyone is warmth which means both that everything is said with some degree of that and you shouldn't come here if objectivity or criticism is important to you. :)
Arashi: It is probably blindingly obvious that I love everyone in Arashi wholeheartedly and without restraint and yes, even more than I ever thought I could love people I don't personally know. ♥ There isn't anyone I don't love in all sorts of ways: they make me laugh, receive eye-lusting, inspire joy and concern and thinky thoughts and keysmashing. Basically, they are all my favorites. In life.
Eito: My relationship with Eito is slightly more layered! It is also an overwhelming sort of love. I love them all as a group (and I think the group is even more than the sum of its parts ♥) and I love everybody, but it is to more varying degrees than Arashi. But I can actually pick favorites insofar as I love Yoko (for his whining and his shyness and blustering and perversion and sweetness. His Yokoness, really.), Yasu (ugh, that guy! So ridiculously talented. His solo music is my favorite of all solo music. He is also the member I most want to lick.) and Subaru (he is so weird and so lovable and his voice) a bit extra and tend to give them more thought and attention. There is a soft, easily poked spot in my heart for little Uchi. I have very dear, sibling-y feelings for Maru and Okura most of the time. (In general, I think of Eito as more of a family than anything. Arashi is more amorphous and undefinable but Eito is solidly such a familial group, in my conception.) Hina is complicated, I love him but he's so different from me that I relate to him less. I'm so glad he's there though, I feel like his presence is particularly needed. Ryo is even more complicated! First off, I have great love and affection for the kid. But I don't feel like I have him quite pinned down. It's not like I take his poison tongue to heart and think he really does do it out of affection or nervousness or just that's his brain. I really love that he's seem like the bratty kid of Eito, even in a group of kids. And yet, there's a bit of jerkiness and machismo that rubs me the wrong way sometimes. (Plus, I'm sorry to say this, but I can't help building up a little resentment due to his fans/my perceived treatment of the group! He is in no way more talented than Yasu or Maru and it feels like he gets a disproportionate amount of attention and fans and good vocal parts. But I try not to hold that personally against him since that's not actually him!)
KAT-TUN: I don't think I know KAT-TUN still. There is something about them as a group that makes me a little uncomfortable. Not knowing them well, I can't really tell how well they get along and that is what makes me love and feel safe with JE groups. I love Kame a lot but I've mostly gotten to know him through his drama roles and promotion of them. I really like Koki, as he was so great in My Boss and he just seems like such a sweet guy, in contrast to his image. Junno is nice too, a much needed tennen in the group. For some reason I like but not love him. Ueda is interesting to me, he seems like the artist and I usually like the artist? Nakamaru, I think I know the least about him! His beatboxing makes me giggle but it's nice that he works on SC with the kids a lot. I'm really not sure what to think about Jin. There's the fandom image of him and he probably gets a greater share of the spotlight in a way that's not really his fault and it seems to an observer like he just doesn't want to be there? That's really hard to get past when you start thinking it of someone. But, especially thanks tokatmillia , there's clearly another side to him and a reason he is the way he is. So I reserve judgment on Jin. Like I mentioned, I'm really inclined to like everyone.
NEWS: Ha, I have a weird relationship with NEWS. I really have no attachment to them as a group but I like the majority of them individually. Well, okay, I actually usually don't think of Ryo or Yamapi as part of the group in my mind. They are just not sorted with NEWS, Ryo goes in the Eito folder and Yamapi is his own (weird) thing (that I love). (And yet I sometimes don't understand why I love him as much as I do? XD) He seems very upright and also seems sort of melancholic, like he has to use his fake smile more of the time than others. I really like Koyama, I'm such a sucker for a cheerful mother hen type. And I really really like Shige, partly due to his jweb and Sharara Tambourine and his general fail/weirdness/sharpness. Since I always forget Yamapi, I think of Shige as my favorite in NewS. Massu seems cute and very talented but he's the one I know the least in this group. Tegoshi kind of terrifies me. But in a fond way. I think it's hilarious that he's so self-centered and yet it is justified by everyone loving him and he grew up slutty and he likes to crossdress. He makes me laugh. ♥
TOKIO: Ahaha, THESE DUDES ARE SO GREAT. They are so out there and naked and dudes. It does seem like they got a lot of the more stereotypically manly guys together to form this group. I kind of feel like they paved the way for Johnny's to be dumbasses and do their own thing. (Eito thanks them, I think they are the closest relative group in tone.) And that is paired with being really dedicated musicians, I really respect them. I get the feeling that there's been more of conflict and less snuggly closeness than the younger groups experienced? At least my younger groups. They definitely appear to be more rough and tumble but they grew up together so it's very much in a sibling-y way. It's obvious now that they are really close and know each other so well. Let's see: I think Leader seems so weird and kind and earnest! I love that he's the bullied one and called Leader almost exclusively. I think he has some similarities with Ohno's form of group "leadership", his underlings talk about him in the same way. ♥ Taichi, I have much fondness for him from SCP. He seems like a bit of a wiseass and kind of sharp and would probably be a pain in the ass to know in real life. He's also such a ham, it's great. I kind of imagine everyone in JE or otherwise loving Mabo or MATSU-NII. I love that he's the one with the biggest gap, he's actually the most conciliatory person but he has the appearance of toughness due to being tall and loud and outgoing? (He really reminds me of Subaru when he was younger, trying so hard for laughs because he was uncomfortable.) Also his laughing seal-clap is AMAZING. Yamaguchi, I probably know the least, my image of him is from the 100 man search where he just sets off on the wildest, most challenging way possible. He seems like he has a bit of an edge, like you wouldn't want to mess with this guy. But also, it seems like he helped bring up the younger ones which I just find so endearing. Nagase is Nagase.That guy is just a living legend. XD I recently watched both his MTV Unplugged show and some random behind the scenes stuff and man, he is talented. Since he didn't originally have an instrument (except for tambourine ♥), has he just picked up several as he went?
V6: The group I know the least about by far, except for those of younger or older generation. I sometimes struggle to name them all? I'm sorry, V6, it's nothing personal! I love Sakamoto though, there's something about his smile and seriousness and being the bullied one and his backstory (so long waiting in the wings, SO LONG) that really appeals to me.
SMAP: I have a great warmth for SMAP! I think they seem like such a fun, closeknit group from their shows I've seen. I love that they have so many old stories about each other and have accumulated weird skills and dress up in so many silly costumes. And I like the members individually, well, the ones I know. Obviously Kimura is a STAR and I enjoy many of his dramas greatly. You can't really argue with his charisma. NAKAI IS AMAZING, Utaban is still the pinnacle of music shows for me. I really love Shingo, he's such a great actor and I think his comedy bits are particularly good. Plus I just like him. I know much less about Goro (though I like that he's always -chan and he has good taste in ladies IRL ;) ) and Tsuyoshi (but his director fantasy was amazing and it seems like they lovingly mock him a lot). I wish more early SMAP was subbed, I am curious about that. I should watch more SMAP.
Tackey & Tsubasa: I have extremely few thoughts except: 1) Tackey kind of freaks me out with his perfectness and 2) I am firmly on the side of Kansai in all conflicts with Tokyo of yore, which are kind of symbolized by Tackey. Even though our Kansai boys have admitted to being wrong and pig-headed at the time. XD
KinKi Kids: Ha, I like them. I feel like there should be more to it than that, but there isn't. I think Domoto Kyoudai is such a wonderful show. They make such good hosts, they are so weird and chill. I really like Tsuyoshi, although I'm not entirely sure why. He's another strange artist dude who is kind of inexplicable and therefore inspires an inexplicable love. :)
Toma: Everyone in the world loves Toma, right? Don't tell me otherwise. Toma is a peach. ♥
OH YEAH, SO ABOUT THAT MUSIC THEY PRODUCE. Ha, you can see where my mind lies in JE (hint: it's feelings). Basically, I listen to all of Arashi and Eito's catalogue. I have a few TOKIO songs I really like but I've never downloaded more than that. From NewS I have "Sharara Tambourine" and "Weeeek". I have "Love Yourself" from KAT-TUN but I embarrassingly know nothing else except for "Real Face"... from Yasu covering it. XD Similarly, there are also some senpai songs I know... but only from other people covering them. (Probably on Shounen Club, cough.) I would welcome more good JE song recs! :D
Oh also, I am having a particularly rough patch in comment replying! I am sorry if you are one of the people I have flaked on recently! I'll try to do better. ♥
skycouldfall 's very simple question on Tumblr: "Who do you like and don’t like in JE?" However, since I'm me, it turned into a longer ramble than I thought it would be so I'm posting this here. Also, since I'm me, all I wrote was: a) what I think of them as a ~person~ and uh, not their looks or acting or music and b) wavering somewhere between empathetic and embarrassingly sincere. I CAN'T EVEN APOLOGIZE FOR THIS, THIS IS HOW INVESTED I AM. (Other things I would apologize for. XD )Disclaimer! This is a post about what I think and feel (as you will probably get from how many times I use the words "think" and "feel", I'm really stretching the vocab with this one). It isn't necessarily accurate representation of anyone, in fact there are cases where I'm probably wrong and there would be easy evidence to refute it. But I am only thinking and feeling with what I know. Such is life! Also, my default position towards everyone is warmth which means both that everything is said with some degree of that and you shouldn't come here if objectivity or criticism is important to you. :)
Arashi: It is probably blindingly obvious that I love everyone in Arashi wholeheartedly and without restraint and yes, even more than I ever thought I could love people I don't personally know. ♥ There isn't anyone I don't love in all sorts of ways: they make me laugh, receive eye-lusting, inspire joy and concern and thinky thoughts and keysmashing. Basically, they are all my favorites. In life.
Eito: My relationship with Eito is slightly more layered! It is also an overwhelming sort of love. I love them all as a group (and I think the group is even more than the sum of its parts ♥) and I love everybody, but it is to more varying degrees than Arashi. But I can actually pick favorites insofar as I love Yoko (for his whining and his shyness and blustering and perversion and sweetness. His Yokoness, really.), Yasu (ugh, that guy! So ridiculously talented. His solo music is my favorite of all solo music. He is also the member I most want to lick.) and Subaru (he is so weird and so lovable and his voice) a bit extra and tend to give them more thought and attention. There is a soft, easily poked spot in my heart for little Uchi. I have very dear, sibling-y feelings for Maru and Okura most of the time. (In general, I think of Eito as more of a family than anything. Arashi is more amorphous and undefinable but Eito is solidly such a familial group, in my conception.) Hina is complicated, I love him but he's so different from me that I relate to him less. I'm so glad he's there though, I feel like his presence is particularly needed. Ryo is even more complicated! First off, I have great love and affection for the kid. But I don't feel like I have him quite pinned down. It's not like I take his poison tongue to heart and think he really does do it out of affection or nervousness or just that's his brain. I really love that he's seem like the bratty kid of Eito, even in a group of kids. And yet, there's a bit of jerkiness and machismo that rubs me the wrong way sometimes. (Plus, I'm sorry to say this, but I can't help building up a little resentment due to his fans/my perceived treatment of the group! He is in no way more talented than Yasu or Maru and it feels like he gets a disproportionate amount of attention and fans and good vocal parts. But I try not to hold that personally against him since that's not actually him!)
KAT-TUN: I don't think I know KAT-TUN still. There is something about them as a group that makes me a little uncomfortable. Not knowing them well, I can't really tell how well they get along and that is what makes me love and feel safe with JE groups. I love Kame a lot but I've mostly gotten to know him through his drama roles and promotion of them. I really like Koki, as he was so great in My Boss and he just seems like such a sweet guy, in contrast to his image. Junno is nice too, a much needed tennen in the group. For some reason I like but not love him. Ueda is interesting to me, he seems like the artist and I usually like the artist? Nakamaru, I think I know the least about him! His beatboxing makes me giggle but it's nice that he works on SC with the kids a lot. I'm really not sure what to think about Jin. There's the fandom image of him and he probably gets a greater share of the spotlight in a way that's not really his fault and it seems to an observer like he just doesn't want to be there? That's really hard to get past when you start thinking it of someone. But, especially thanks to
katmillia , there's clearly another side to him and a reason he is the way he is. So I reserve judgment on Jin. Like I mentioned, I'm really inclined to like everyone.NEWS: Ha, I have a weird relationship with NEWS. I really have no attachment to them as a group but I like the majority of them individually. Well, okay, I actually usually don't think of Ryo or Yamapi as part of the group in my mind. They are just not sorted with NEWS, Ryo goes in the Eito folder and Yamapi is his own (weird) thing (that I love). (And yet I sometimes don't understand why I love him as much as I do? XD) He seems very upright and also seems sort of melancholic, like he has to use his fake smile more of the time than others. I really like Koyama, I'm such a sucker for a cheerful mother hen type. And I really really like Shige, partly due to his jweb and Sharara Tambourine and his general fail/weirdness/sharpness. Since I always forget Yamapi, I think of Shige as my favorite in NewS. Massu seems cute and very talented but he's the one I know the least in this group. Tegoshi kind of terrifies me. But in a fond way. I think it's hilarious that he's so self-centered and yet it is justified by everyone loving him and he grew up slutty and he likes to crossdress. He makes me laugh. ♥
TOKIO: Ahaha, THESE DUDES ARE SO GREAT. They are so out there and naked and dudes. It does seem like they got a lot of the more stereotypically manly guys together to form this group. I kind of feel like they paved the way for Johnny's to be dumbasses and do their own thing. (Eito thanks them, I think they are the closest relative group in tone.) And that is paired with being really dedicated musicians, I really respect them. I get the feeling that there's been more of conflict and less snuggly closeness than the younger groups experienced? At least my younger groups. They definitely appear to be more rough and tumble but they grew up together so it's very much in a sibling-y way. It's obvious now that they are really close and know each other so well. Let's see: I think Leader seems so weird and kind and earnest! I love that he's the bullied one and called Leader almost exclusively. I think he has some similarities with Ohno's form of group "leadership", his underlings talk about him in the same way. ♥ Taichi, I have much fondness for him from SCP. He seems like a bit of a wiseass and kind of sharp and would probably be a pain in the ass to know in real life. He's also such a ham, it's great. I kind of imagine everyone in JE or otherwise loving Mabo or MATSU-NII. I love that he's the one with the biggest gap, he's actually the most conciliatory person but he has the appearance of toughness due to being tall and loud and outgoing? (He really reminds me of Subaru when he was younger, trying so hard for laughs because he was uncomfortable.) Also his laughing seal-clap is AMAZING. Yamaguchi, I probably know the least, my image of him is from the 100 man search where he just sets off on the wildest, most challenging way possible. He seems like he has a bit of an edge, like you wouldn't want to mess with this guy. But also, it seems like he helped bring up the younger ones which I just find so endearing. Nagase is Nagase.That guy is just a living legend. XD I recently watched both his MTV Unplugged show and some random behind the scenes stuff and man, he is talented. Since he didn't originally have an instrument (except for tambourine ♥), has he just picked up several as he went?
V6: The group I know the least about by far, except for those of younger or older generation. I sometimes struggle to name them all? I'm sorry, V6, it's nothing personal! I love Sakamoto though, there's something about his smile and seriousness and being the bullied one and his backstory (so long waiting in the wings, SO LONG) that really appeals to me.
SMAP: I have a great warmth for SMAP! I think they seem like such a fun, closeknit group from their shows I've seen. I love that they have so many old stories about each other and have accumulated weird skills and dress up in so many silly costumes. And I like the members individually, well, the ones I know. Obviously Kimura is a STAR and I enjoy many of his dramas greatly. You can't really argue with his charisma. NAKAI IS AMAZING, Utaban is still the pinnacle of music shows for me. I really love Shingo, he's such a great actor and I think his comedy bits are particularly good. Plus I just like him. I know much less about Goro (though I like that he's always -chan and he has good taste in ladies IRL ;) ) and Tsuyoshi (but his director fantasy was amazing and it seems like they lovingly mock him a lot). I wish more early SMAP was subbed, I am curious about that. I should watch more SMAP.
Tackey & Tsubasa: I have extremely few thoughts except: 1) Tackey kind of freaks me out with his perfectness and 2) I am firmly on the side of Kansai in all conflicts with Tokyo of yore, which are kind of symbolized by Tackey. Even though our Kansai boys have admitted to being wrong and pig-headed at the time. XD
KinKi Kids: Ha, I like them. I feel like there should be more to it than that, but there isn't. I think Domoto Kyoudai is such a wonderful show. They make such good hosts, they are so weird and chill. I really like Tsuyoshi, although I'm not entirely sure why. He's another strange artist dude who is kind of inexplicable and therefore inspires an inexplicable love. :)
Toma: Everyone in the world loves Toma, right? Don't tell me otherwise. Toma is a peach. ♥
OH YEAH, SO ABOUT THAT MUSIC THEY PRODUCE. Ha, you can see where my mind lies in JE (hint: it's feelings). Basically, I listen to all of Arashi and Eito's catalogue. I have a few TOKIO songs I really like but I've never downloaded more than that. From NewS I have "Sharara Tambourine" and "Weeeek". I have "Love Yourself" from KAT-TUN but I embarrassingly know nothing else except for "Real Face"... from Yasu covering it. XD Similarly, there are also some senpai songs I know... but only from other people covering them. (Probably on Shounen Club, cough.) I would welcome more good JE song recs! :D
Oh also, I am having a particularly rough patch in comment replying! I am sorry if you are one of the people I have flaked on recently! I'll try to do better. ♥
